BJCP updating style guidelines!
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BJCP updating style guidelines!
Yes!
Proposed update to BJCP style guidelines. Hopefully they will fully implement this by the end of the year. If you are brewing for our competition, which will be in June of 2015, be aware of this stuff. If these are in place, we will use these style guidelines.
http://www.bjcp.org/docs/NHC2014-styles.pdf
Proposed update to BJCP style guidelines. Hopefully they will fully implement this by the end of the year. If you are brewing for our competition, which will be in June of 2015, be aware of this stuff. If these are in place, we will use these style guidelines.
http://www.bjcp.org/docs/NHC2014-styles.pdf
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Uf, koliko novih stvari.
Trebat će mi dugo da pohvatam sve nove nazive stilova.
Kako će beersmith s ovim stajati? Dal će bit neka nova verzija?
No generalno mi se sviđaju promjene. Vidim da su mnogi stilovi dobili prefikse engleski, američki, češki... Pojednostavljeni su nazivi stilova i dodane nove kategorije za razna specijalna piva.
Trebat će mi dugo da pohvatam sve nove nazive stilova.
Kako će beersmith s ovim stajati? Dal će bit neka nova verzija?
No generalno mi se sviđaju promjene. Vidim da su mnogi stilovi dobili prefikse engleski, američki, češki... Pojednostavljeni su nazivi stilova i dodane nove kategorije za razna specijalna piva.
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Čitam promjene i dobar dio mojih zamjerki na BJCPovu podjelu se čini riješenim. Odlično!
Edit: Da zapravo, jedina moja veća zamjerka da je ostala nepromjenjena je nered u ciderima (iako je dodavanje ice cidera zakon). Prvo - di je španjolski cider kao kategorija, Baskija i Asturija imaju stvarno specifične, iznimne cidere i brutalno jaku kulturu cidera, koja se ne preklapa nužno s francuskom. Njemačka se više preklapa s francuskom recimo po dosta stvari, pa i podjeli, ne računajući ove apfelweinove (koji na (tipa Hesse) koji su baš specifični (jeftini kiseliš 99% njih ispada al specifičan stil... ako mogu american light lageri bit, može i ovakvo nešto i ne, nisu isto šta applewineovi). Isto ima i tradicija dodavanja oskoruša u jabučni cider u Švabiji kao, valjda, poprilična specifičnost, al ajde, to ide u cider with other fruit.
Edit: Da zapravo, jedina moja veća zamjerka da je ostala nepromjenjena je nered u ciderima (iako je dodavanje ice cidera zakon). Prvo - di je španjolski cider kao kategorija, Baskija i Asturija imaju stvarno specifične, iznimne cidere i brutalno jaku kulturu cidera, koja se ne preklapa nužno s francuskom. Njemačka se više preklapa s francuskom recimo po dosta stvari, pa i podjeli, ne računajući ove apfelweinove (koji na (tipa Hesse) koji su baš specifični (jeftini kiseliš 99% njih ispada al specifičan stil... ako mogu american light lageri bit, može i ovakvo nešto i ne, nisu isto šta applewineovi). Isto ima i tradicija dodavanja oskoruša u jabučni cider u Švabiji kao, valjda, poprilična specifičnost, al ajde, to ide u cider with other fruit.
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I will have to see, but for now, I am happy with this. The brewing world is doing a lot every year and there are tons of new styles and old historical styles being rediscovered. And if we get to implement this, it means that people will not have to always put these in the Specialty category. They will actually have a defined category to enter them in. Furthermore, it will solidify those categories as many of us brewers who have never even heard of nor seen a certain kind of beer can read the definitions and see if it is something that interests us, do some research online and try our hand at them.
As for BeerSmith, I am sure they will implement it. We might need to import it. When you are viewing styles, there is a button for OPEN. It might be as simple as that or importing somewhere else in the software, or Brad, the programmer, might have to update the code for the app and we'd have to update.
As for BeerSmith, I am sure they will implement it. We might need to import it. When you are viewing styles, there is a button for OPEN. It might be as simple as that or importing somewhere else in the software, or Brad, the programmer, might have to update the code for the app and we'd have to update.
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March 2015
Change in Sensory Kits
There will be a major change with sensory kit orders placed on or after April 1, 2015. We are discontinuing purchase of the 24 vial comprehensive kit and will now only offer a 12 vial basic kit. Two main factors have led to this change. One, we received feedback that many of the vials in the Siebel comprehensive kit are going unused due to the obscure nature of the characteristic. The second is that Siebel has changed their vendor and is now allowing custom kits to be built. After much discussion, we have determined that a basic 12 vial custom kit is our best choice at this time for both exam prep classes and member training. The new custom kit will consist of the following:
Acetaldehyde
Butyric
Diacetyl
DMS
Earthy
Ethyl Acetate
Ethyl Hexanoate
Geraniol
Indole
Isovaleric
Papery
Spicy
When determining which characteristics to offer, we intentionally excluded those that can be easily reproduced at home. The CEP team will develop a flyer containing guidelines to supplement the Siebel kit that talks about what other faults class leaders should include in sensory training, and how to properly doctor those samples. This will be done prior to the new kits being shipped.
A more advanced 12 vial kit may be developed at a later time if demand and budget permit.
The cost of the new style kit will remain the same, $50 for exam kits and $100 for member kits. Shipping costs have increased due to an international vendor, and keeping the member cost the same will allow more members to purchase kits before the budget cap is reached each year.
Anyone wishing to purchase the comprehensive kit may still do so but will need to place that order directly with Siebel. The BJCP will no longer subsidize this kit or be involved in the ordering process.
Questions regarding this new kit can be directed to the CEP Team.
February 2015
Style Guideline Status Update
The release of the new style guidelines has been delayed while we complete the final editing and review. We intended to release them by the end of 2014, primarily to allow the AHA NHC to use them in the upcoming season. However, the AHA informed us in November 2014 that they intended to continue to use the 2008 guidelines for the 2015 NHC, so that removed an artificial deadline.
Since the last update, we have completed the internal review, and are now incorporating updates from a second external review. We are also expanding some sections to address comments we have received. Obviously, the name 2014 is moot at this point, so the new guidelines will be called the 2015 BJCP Style Guidelines, and should be released by the end of March 2015.
The current guidelines remain in effect for exams and competitions. The same guidance as previously released applies to exams. We will allow at least a 6 month transition period before they will be in effect. A more detailed guidance statement will be released by the Exam Directorate after the guidelines are released. We will still need assistance at that time to translate and format the guidelines into additional versions.
Change in Sensory Kits
There will be a major change with sensory kit orders placed on or after April 1, 2015. We are discontinuing purchase of the 24 vial comprehensive kit and will now only offer a 12 vial basic kit. Two main factors have led to this change. One, we received feedback that many of the vials in the Siebel comprehensive kit are going unused due to the obscure nature of the characteristic. The second is that Siebel has changed their vendor and is now allowing custom kits to be built. After much discussion, we have determined that a basic 12 vial custom kit is our best choice at this time for both exam prep classes and member training. The new custom kit will consist of the following:
Acetaldehyde
Butyric
Diacetyl
DMS
Earthy
Ethyl Acetate
Ethyl Hexanoate
Geraniol
Indole
Isovaleric
Papery
Spicy
When determining which characteristics to offer, we intentionally excluded those that can be easily reproduced at home. The CEP team will develop a flyer containing guidelines to supplement the Siebel kit that talks about what other faults class leaders should include in sensory training, and how to properly doctor those samples. This will be done prior to the new kits being shipped.
A more advanced 12 vial kit may be developed at a later time if demand and budget permit.
The cost of the new style kit will remain the same, $50 for exam kits and $100 for member kits. Shipping costs have increased due to an international vendor, and keeping the member cost the same will allow more members to purchase kits before the budget cap is reached each year.
Anyone wishing to purchase the comprehensive kit may still do so but will need to place that order directly with Siebel. The BJCP will no longer subsidize this kit or be involved in the ordering process.
Questions regarding this new kit can be directed to the CEP Team.
February 2015
Style Guideline Status Update
The release of the new style guidelines has been delayed while we complete the final editing and review. We intended to release them by the end of 2014, primarily to allow the AHA NHC to use them in the upcoming season. However, the AHA informed us in November 2014 that they intended to continue to use the 2008 guidelines for the 2015 NHC, so that removed an artificial deadline.
Since the last update, we have completed the internal review, and are now incorporating updates from a second external review. We are also expanding some sections to address comments we have received. Obviously, the name 2014 is moot at this point, so the new guidelines will be called the 2015 BJCP Style Guidelines, and should be released by the end of March 2015.
The current guidelines remain in effect for exams and competitions. The same guidance as previously released applies to exams. We will allow at least a 6 month transition period before they will be in effect. A more detailed guidance statement will be released by the Exam Directorate after the guidelines are released. We will still need assistance at that time to translate and format the guidelines into additional versions.
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if you don’t like it, it probably wasn’t meant for you...
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